I had a scan last week and a treatment review. These are always anxiety-provoking, but I knew that the possible outcomes were: that the chemo regimen was working (even if that meant just holding things stable) and would be continued; or that it wasn't working and they'd either try different drugs, or - worst case scenario - say there was nothing more they could do. My sister Belinda came with me as usual - for moral support, to keep track of what's said, and to ask pertinent questions when I feel overwhelmed (it's also invaluable being able to dissect it afterwards and debrief from any emotional fall-out). Pleasingly, I've been feeling much better during the third cycle than I did during the first two (much less gastric discomfort, finding appetite and eating a lot easier, and having more energy), so despite the usual nerves I was feeling quite optimistic overall about the results of the scan.
So I was devastated to hear that there's been further growth in most areas of the liver, and while it isn't a huge amount, the doctor we saw told us that it indicates that the chemo isn't working and should be discontinued. She reiterated what I was told last summer, and back in November: that there aren't any further chemo drugs indicated for my condition and that I would be discharged from care at the Marsden. Remarkably, she was completely matter-of-fact about this and didn't seem to have any awareness of the impact of this news - extraordinary when you consider that this is perhaps one of the worst things you could ever be told by a doctor ("you have an incurable condition, it's getting worse, the treatment isn't working, and there's nothing more we can do for you"). She mentioned that she would of course discuss it with the consultant, who has the ultimate decision-making power on all clinical matters, and seemed a bit surprised when Belinda asked whether we could speak to him ourselves.
But she did arrange it, and presently we saw the man himself. I'm so glad we did, because he listened to us, considered the matter in some detail, and agreed that since the growth isn't huge there is a case to be made for continuing with treatment a bit longer, since it may be that the chemo is slowing down the rate of increase. He also took into account the fact that I'm tolerating the chemo OK at the moment (if I was experiencing a lot of problems with it, given the additional toxicity of more cycles he would advise against carrying on when there isn't clear evidence of benefit). The upshot was that I'm to have a further four cycles of this regimen (eight weeks) and then another scan and review.
I'm extremely relieved - it's interesting how the chemo which I've so hated suddenly became much more appealing when I was faced with losing it! - and, just as importantly, I feel listened to and part of the decision which has been reached, in contrast to previous reviews when I've simply been presented with what the team have decided in my absence. I was impressed with the consultant's obvious expertise and experience, and feel reassured and in safe hands - which is so important. (It's also rather shocking to think that if we hadn't insisted to speaking to him ourselves, it's very likely he would simply have rubber-stamped the usual procedure - to stop treatment when scans show deterioration - and I'd have presumably been discharged without further discussion. It certainly seems that those who shout loudest get better care!)
However, the downside is that the consultant confirmed what the other doctors had said: that after this regimen there are no other drugs they'll offer me. There are dozens of different drugs out there, and I'd assumed that, even if there isn't research data available on their effect on cancer of unknown primary, they would try out a fair number of options experimentally. This turns out not to be the case for me: I've now had the two different recommended regimens at the Marsden, and there are no other drugs to be tried once I finish this regimen.
So although for the next couple of months things will continue as before, with chemo every other week, I'm now starkly confronted with the fact that pretty soon there will be nothing more the Marsden can do for me. I guess I'd always known that there was likely to come a point when I reached the end of the road with what conventional medicine could offer, but I certainly hadn't expected to be reaching it so soon - when I'm still relatively well and leading a fairly normal life. And to be frank I'm finding it terrifying, and horrifying, to be faced with being written off by the hospital system. Although I've had a somewhat mixed relationship with the Marsden, the prospect of losing the structure and expertise they offer is very frightening, plus the feeling of being "given up on" makes it much harder to maintain hope. Of course I may be eligible for a clinical trial, if a suitable one comes up, but with early-stage testing there's a much lower probability of treatments being effective than with a well-established drug. So I'm finding it pretty hard to deal with, even though I've got a cushion of some weeks till I reach that point (providing I carry on tolerating the chemo OK and don't develop some side-effect which means it has to be stopped early).
Over this weekend after getting this news I was down in Sussex with my older sister Annabel and then with my good friend Jacqie. It was great to talk it through with them, but I also appreciated spending time with their children; entering into children's mindsets leaves no space for pondering on your own problems or existential matters, and it was a huge relief to have some respite from my fears. So I had some really nice times, but in between I've felt very upset and scared of what the future holds.
Of course, there are still alternative treatments... and in Sussex this weekend I also saw the alternative doctor, who has a variety of treatments he offers to help contain cancer, such as high-dose vitamin C infusions and various supplements to help the body fight it as effectively as possible. So far what I've been having from him is based around repairing cell damage from the chemo and supporting my immune system, but he confirmed that we can try other things, which is reassuring. There are also all kinds of wackier treatments out there, which I'll certainly be researching again - when there was a well-researched medical option available to me I discounted most of them, but when there no longer is then I reckon I've not got much to lose by trying one or more. I could also consider going back to the clinic in Germany - almost everyone I met there had been written off by their oncologists back home, but many did very well on Dr Herzog's protocols. One of the nice things about the alternative doctor, like the German clinic, is meeting other patients there who don't just take the medical view as gospel and who take their treatment into their own hands, and I found it comforting and supportive to remember that there are many other people in similar situations to me who are definitely not giving up. I know that alternative approaches, by definition, are relatively unproven, but I can't imagine meekly going home and simply waiting till I deteriorate and die without trying anything and everything which might help.
So stopping treatment at the Marsden certainly doesn't mean stopping fighting, and I've no intention of doing that. But, for the record, right now I feel pretty knocked back and vulnerable. I was due to have chemo this week but my blood tests today showed that my platelets (involved in blood clotting) are too low, so it's been postponed a week to give them time to recover. In some ways it's nice not having to have the drugs, but it's unsettling knowing that my body's already struggling to cope. My plan is to rest as much as possible and eat well, and I guess just take things a week at a time.
I realise this post is not what you'll have been hoping to read, and it's been difficult to write as well. In one way, things haven't really changed - yes there's been some more growth, but the tumours have been growing since last spring or early summer, so it's not really surprising that that's continued; and I'm carrying on with treatment for now - but in another way the shift feels huge, that what was an abstract possibility (no more medical intervention) is now an actual prospect in the pretty near future. So it requires a new level of processing and adjustment, and having to prepare for facing up to entering a new phase, yet without giving up hope. Not easy at all.
I realise this post is not what you'll have been hoping to read, and it's been difficult to write as well. In one way, things haven't really changed - yes there's been some more growth, but the tumours have been growing since last spring or early summer, so it's not really surprising that that's continued; and I'm carrying on with treatment for now - but in another way the shift feels huge, that what was an abstract possibility (no more medical intervention) is now an actual prospect in the pretty near future. So it requires a new level of processing and adjustment, and having to prepare for facing up to entering a new phase, yet without giving up hope. Not easy at all.
Dear Sylvia, Like you we have been patients at Dr. Herzog's Clinic for some time. We met once briefly but our paths have not crossed since. I have been following your blog out of interest but today I thought I might send you some information which I have just come across. info@immunologyfoundation.org.It is apparently a clinic in Bavaria which specializes in immunology. I know nothing about them but it might be worth a look. The clinic is called the International Immunology Clinic.I am sorry things are difficult at the present time for you.Best wishes to you for the coming year.
ReplyDeleteHi Sylvia,
ReplyDeleteJust read your blog and wanted to make contact with you, although I don't know what to say really except again how much admiration I have for your incredible approach to this hideous thing. The blog must be so hard to write, but I hope it is still useful for you to do so. It is hard to read in one way, but inspiring in another.
Shelley and I are thinking of you and hoping that the next lot of chemo can be as effective as possible.
Lots of love,
John Dibdin and co x.
Hi Sylvia. Just received the email from your blog and had to write. Draw strength from knowing that you are in our thoughts. I admire your honesty and how you are looking at all that is available in this battle. Sending all my love, Mel (and Greg) xxx
ReplyDeleteHi Sylvia,
ReplyDeleteI also got the email from your blog and wanted to reply. It was really hard to read so I really can't imagine how hard it must be for you to hear the news, digest it, and then write about it. As always you are an inspiration. I'm so glad you are doing this blog - it is really beneficial for other people to read.
Thank you.
Lots of love from Sareyeh XXX
Hey Sylvs, it must have been awful to get such news. I'm glad you're continuing the chemo for now and that you've tolerated it better this time. Like you say there are lots of alternative treatments that you can get the best out of and it seems you have a good network of friends and fellow patients who are well researched. Keep positive and have faith in who you are xxx
ReplyDeleteHi Sylvia,
ReplyDeleteThank you for writing to eloquently what must be incredibly difficult and confronting.
WHAT can WE do to help? Write a list, specifics or general, stick it on the blog.
You are so strong and amazing and inspire me to be less moany everyday!
Love fiona
Hi Sylvia,
ReplyDeleteJohn and I have been waiting for news of your scan and treatment review, which we have now read about on your blog. It must have been very hard to receive the news that you had been 'written off' by the Marsden, and I am so thankful that Belinda was with you and helped you insist on seeing the consultant who really engaged with you and your condition.
Of course John and I welcome your decision to try more alternative treatments in the event of conventional drugs being denied to you. We know a doctor here in Hove who administers high dosage vitamin C in his cancer treatments and who has a good track record.
My feeling is that your immune system has been very compromised by the chemo and perhaps, if it is stopped, it will recover and have more energy to fight the tumours, and you will experience increased well-being. In any case and you will receive more loving and caring attention from alternative healers, which will help to boost you emotionally. Reading your blogs I have several times been shocked by the brusque way you have been treated by the medical professionals.
I'd say just carry on one day at a time enjoying what there is to enjoy and avoid fearful thoughts and feelings about the future. It seems to me that this sort of attitude would be best to support your healing.
And if you would like to come down and stay with us any time and be looked after, we are here for you, and I would offer you some more vortex healing sessions. Just let us know if you feel like coming.
Lots of love from Phoebe and John
Difficult to write I'm sure - but it doesn't show. Also hard to read, but as ever you are clear and strong.
ReplyDeleteDon't leave off pressing the medics - in my experience, you always have to hassle and probe them to ensure you are getting the best, so don't be put off - I'm sure you won't! Wishing you all the best.
Hi Sylvie,
ReplyDeleteWas trying to track your contact details - for some reason they are not to hand - and read your recent blog, I am so sorry you are having such a tricky time. I had thought that no news was good news. I wanted to tell you about a healer who will be at the Haven this Saturday afternoon. If you could email me at emmaroberts.consultants@gmail.com tomorrow I will forward you the details.
Best,
Emma